Just curious if anyone beat lvl 150 of FretMaster already? I mean someone had to, because I am percentile 99% π . Grinding every day, there is some progress, but my PB is still only around 30.
I'm afraid I can't help: lvl 147 here (percentile 93.95), stuck at it for days... Around lvl 100 I started feeling I had no idea what I was doing, and now I still don't know what I'm doing, but faster! π
Me neither: level 149 (95.96%) I can get either 26 questions answered but not all of them right, or 20ish questions right. Keyboard shortcuts would save my life on this game.
@Cuantas Cuerdas for me as well π memorizing fretboard has always been my kryptonite. Around some 100+ lvl I decided to print out couple of pages of blank fretboards and fill in the notes when I got bored. That helped me a lot I think.
And also you know what helped me a lot? Surprisingly (not really) Intervalix! Sometimes I recognize the next note is for example m9 above the previous and gain a super fast point that way π.
@Benjamin Jack yeah π there was this super steep difficulty spike. I am afraid what waits for us beyond lvl 150. I think if I get good RNG I can do like 32, maybe 33 points. But above 35?! That is totally insane.
Somehow I hit lvl 151 couple of days ago after lots of tries. Guess I just got lucky with that. Anyway, so far lvl 151 has the same difficulty (35 questions) as the previous one.
I can now click with accuracy in over 50 different places that far apart in less than a minute for chord maze (on a trackpad), so I assume that it is possible, I have realized that my brain is getting to be the slow one not the fingers for this game. @Ilya Sharapov what is your process for memorizing notes?
@Petr Hartmann Thanks a lot! Yes, I use nothing but mouse. As far as I know, keyboard is useless because Guitar Gym has no hotkeys? I may be wrong.
@Benjamin Jack Oh, that's actually a great question. My process for finding the notes has different approaches mixed into one.
First of all, I remember the sound of some notes internally (the C and the F# seem to be the most recognisable by my ear), so it's basically means that it is possible to save some time with this memorizing the notes stage. My piece of advice is to try naming notes out loud as you play them on a guitar, and during the game I try to name everything as well.
Next, if I fail to recognise a note by ear, I use octaves. I think many guitar players are familiar with the concept of learning notes on the 6th and the 5th strings up to the 12th fret, so that you can find notes on the rest of the strings much faster with the octave shapes.
And finally, sometimes I just know where the certain note is. What I mean by that is that I just remembered visually some patterns on the fretboard. For instance, I pay close attention to the first frets on the 2nd string. That's some kind of a reference place for me. Also, the great place to know notes on are frets 5, 7, 10. Especially the last one, because you can find notes on the 10th fret in no time, when in other situations you count two halfsteps from the 12th fret (which you know if you learned your open EBGDAE) if that makes sense.
And as far as I'm concerned those are my methods of finding notes on the fretboard. If I remember more details - I'll add them probably here.
Couple of things I can add. My winrate is quite poor, because mostly I finish with a good result of 30-ish notes, but it's still not 35 when the time is over. Moreover, you have to be careful when choosing the note. Even one misclick in many cases means that you have to start from the beginning, as you physically can't let yourself choose an incorrect option. Now it's level 154, and it seems to be of the same difficulty as level 150.
@Ilya Sharapov I think that level 150 might be the end of the difficulty for fretmaster than, in what I see with other games most of the games stop getting harder around 150-200. Yay something to work toward, not forever progessinly harder levels. :)
And yes there are no keyboard shortcuts yet, I have opened a ticket on this, the developers have this on their radar, however they have may other more important things to do (like making new hands on sections and then fixing them)
Yes some of this is sarcasm but there are no italics or quotation marks that I can use to express itπ
143 here, still kind of managable when I eliminate a few more moments of hesitation. Three hacks helped me being faster - a) the visualization of the matrix of primes on the fretboard, b) remembering how particular notes sound, both mentioned by @Ilya Sharapov and c) interval recognition between the current and previous note.
That is interesting, I personally use both interval recognition for a few, but for most of them I use reference notes, i.e. I have memorized the notes at each of the fretboard markers and work up or down from there.
Also @Bartosz Samitowski what is a matrix of primes?? That sounds fun, scary, and useful!
@Benjamin Jack I guess it is the exact thing you talking about as well - markers on a fretboard (first few are prime numbers - 3, 5, 7)? π But It also caught me off-guard π.
@Ilya Sharapov of course I use only mouse as well. It is just a habbit mentioning them together π. Somebody mentioned that touch screen is much faster (not for me) so I was curious how do you play it.
@Benjamin Jack ππ sorry, that's just a perhaps confusing name I used provisionally for the shape of the same notes over the fretboard. for example, all C's or all E's, etc.
@Cuantas Cuerdas same here, also stuck on 147. I can aaaalmost clear it, usually with 1 or 2 notes left. I'm using a trackball and sometimes it feels like it's helping me, other times I just can't aim accurate and fast enough even if I know the note right away.
Interestingly, I find that Chord Maze helped me the most, especially with the notes on the E-A-D-G strings. So I mostly have to think about the B string, the others are more automatic for me.
Seems like we are a nice group of 'strugglers' around lvl 150...
I have to say, @Igor Ishchenko , that I finally killed 147 yesterday with around 0.0001 seconds left π . 148 feels a bit like 2 or 3 stories below inside the same hell... BTW, I've been thinking about switching to Trackball when my beloved mouse's battery dies. Have you been using yours for a long time? I'd be very grateful if you could share a few words about your experience with it so far and help me make a decision...π
@Cuantas Cuerdas not for long, I think about a month now. My wrists were absolutely killing me. First I thought it's because of the guitar and stopped playing for some time but pain didn't go away. So I started upgrading stuff around my desk, bought a good ergonomic chair and a trackball, and already feel much better. I'm also going to play more so we'll see if the problem was purely with the working posture.
Anyway, I got an Elecom Huge. It took me some time to get used to it. Ironically, it seems to be better suited for small hands but I think I figured out how to be comfortable with it. I also do a bit of 3D CAD stuff and it's soo much better to navigate with the trackball than with the mouse.
There are some annoying things, though. First, it's hard to move it by just a little bit from the stationary position. Moving to the other end of the screen is fine, but moving it by a couple of pixels is quite difficult. Second, I don't know if it's my hands, heat or whatever but I have to take out the ball and clean the bearings several times a day. Less important, but additional buttons do not work at all. I installed their software, tried every possible workaround, they are completely dead.
Overall, I think it wasn't a bad purchase and it definitely reduced my RSI symptoms. If you can, try couple of different trackballs to see which one works best for you.
Wow, thank you so much for the detailed explanation, @Igor Ishchenko . I really needed to have a first-hand, personal experience from a trustworthy source that is not trying to sell anything to me...so I really appreciate your effort!
So far I had barely scratched the surface, it seems. I even hadn't heard of Elecom brand, it probably isn't that common in Spain, I guess. I also didn't know there were some models designed to have the ball in the middle, instead of the classic 'thumb' position (apart from Kensingtons, but those have always looked a bit 'unusable' to me, at least for the tasks I regularly perform on such peripheral). However, I think I'll stick to my original idea of getting a thumb-actioned one, just to keep fingers on buttons and scroll wheels as they are on regular mice. I'm impressed by the large amount of different models Elecom has to offer, but the problems with buttons and software you describe are not very inviting...
@Cuantas Cuerdas I originally wanted to buy a Logitech MX Ergo, which is a thumb trackball, but there weren't any available. I started to look for the alternatives and found a shop that sells a lot of different Elecoms and Kensingtons.
From what I've seen, it seems like on average all trackballs have more hardware issues than mouses. However, Elecom ones seem to be pretty repairable, so with a soldering iron and some swearing you can fix most of the potential problems.
My swearing is top-notch, my neighbors know it well π, but my skills barely touch the electricity network. Electronics are a mistery to me, I'm still not sure if that's an alternative name for magic.
I've always had good experiences with Logitech, and also had an eye on the MX Ergo, so I probably try to get it. When I take the step I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best!
I personally don't experience any discomfort using 'regular' mouse but I will gladly join the Logitech fanclub as I recently acquired the set MX Keys S Combo - I was always the 'anti-wireless' guy but this set is great and Logitech imho makes the best peripherals.
I have tried mice, but I am still faster and more accurate with the stock trackpad of my laptop. And though I might be a little faster with a gaming chorded low latency mouse, I am not as accurate.(less practice with those)
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